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Podcasts 31 Jul 2025 1 min read

Stop Waiting. Start Rowing: Career Leadership with John Gartin

Albert Segura talks to John Gartin about what it means to prepare students for the future of work

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Stop Waiting. Start Rowing: Career Leadership with John Gartin

In this episode, Albert Segura talks to John Gartin, former Director of Career Services at Northern Arizona University, now Director of Learning & Organizational Development. With a background in competitive rowing and a passion for human development, John brings a coach’s mindset to career services.

They explore what it means to truly prepare students for the future of work — and why that requires boldness, relationships, and getting out of the office.

John shares:

  • His “crepe cake” theory of career development
  • What most people misunderstand about career services
  • Why AI literacy should start now
  • How faculty allies become career multipliers
  • The quiet power of reflection and human connection

This isn’t a checklist episode. It’s a call to action